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#Mars and #Venus - Phase 2
We are pleased to announce that phase 2 of the ChatFighters Planetary System has officially begun!
As part of this phase, the split that was previously in the chat will now be implemented across the main site.
Upon entering CF, you will be prompted to select between Venus and Mars. This choice will determine which version of the site you will be directed to.
Mars will only host male characters and male vs male battles. Character keywords "male/female" or "female/female" will not be able to enter Mars once the planetary restrictions are enforced. Venus is the choice for intergender communication and battles and will not allow "male/male" characters.
Your CF account and all characters attached to it will be accessible on both Mars and Venus. However, it is important to note that chat rooms, comments, and messages are separated now between the two sites. Changes made on one site will not propagate to the other site.
With this in mind, we recommend choosing one primary site for each of your characters in preparation for phase 3.
In conjunction with the phase 2 launch, most of our federations have also been assigned to either Mars or Venus. If you are a federation admin and believe your federation has been assigned to the wrong planet, please open a support case through the help center. Some general federation will continue to exist on both planets. As a federation admin, you can request the removal of one version.
As this is a cyber fight roleplaying site, you may also consider modifying or creating additional characters on either site in order to align with the planetary restrictions. This will allow you to fully participate in the content and functionality of both versions of the site.
In preparation for phase 3, we also encourage you to select your character stats as soon as possible. This will ensure that you are ready for the next phase of our change and can fully participate in the site's content and functionality.
We understand that this change may be difficult for some members of our community, and we want to assure you that it was not made lightly. We believe that this split will ultimately lead to a better experience for all of our users, and we appreciate your understanding and support as we move forward with this transition.
Thank you for your continued engagement and participation in our community.
Frequently asked questions and comments, answered:
- 1) I'm on Mars. How can I switch to Venus?
- In chat, use the menu and select "Fly me to #venus". On the main site, use the planet icon near the top to switch.
- 2) Can I join both?
- Yes, you can be in both rooms and on both sites at the same time. You simply need a 2nd browser tab.
- 3) My Federation was wrong assigned. / I want to remove it from one of the Plants.
- Please contact us (over support), and we will make the necessary adjustments.
- 4) I have friends on ... Can I still talk to them?
- Yes, during phase 2 everyone can join every site. With phase 3, you might need to create a 2nd character to stay in touch. This is one reason we are rolling this feature out in phases.
- 5) 2nd browser tab just to talk to some of my friends this
sucksis inconvenient- Yes, unfortunately, this is true. But also, it is just one more tab.
- 6) Will messages be synced between Mars and Venus?
- No. Your initial messages got synced at the creation of Mars and Venus. Future messages you are sending will not be synced. (same applies to comments, stories and chat rooms)
- 7) I'm a room admin. Do I need now to be in the same room twice on both sites?
- Yes, depending on the goal you had when you created the room, you might request the termination (open ticket) of one of the rooms on the either planet Or keep both. You can, of course, also pass on the owner's right to someone else. This can be a new or existing character of you too.
- 8) My gender is "cyborg"
- "Cyborg" does not equal "Male" and will not be able to join Mars once Phase 3 begins. Recommended action: Depending on your liking, enjoy Venus, or change your gender to "Male"
- 9) My keywords include both "Male/Male" and "Male/Female"
- Characters with the "Male/Female" keyword will not be able to join Mars once Phase 3 begins. Recommended action: Remove "Male/Female" on your Mars Character - or create a new character.
- 10) This goes too fast! / This goes too slow!
- OK.
- 11) Why is this happening?
- See previous news posts - and comments. The short summary is: frequent user requests and careful deliberation.
- 12) This is stupid and makes no sense.
- See previous news posts - and comments.
- 13) This sucks!
- They are many alternatives out there, discord and similar websites to us. If you hate a place, don't use it. Constructive criticism is appreciated.
- 14) This is awesome; thank you!
- You are welcome.
- 15) This is a drastic change.
- Yes, it is, and we are aware of the consequences. But the dust will settle once the new colonies establish on they planet.
- 16) What's next?
- Next up is Phase 3: we will start enforcing the rules for Venus and Mars; if you try to join a plant with a character that is not appropriate, you will receive an error message and get redirected. Your characters will no longer exist on both planet: they will instead become residents of either Venus or Mars.
- 17) Can I criticize this change?
- Sure.
- 18) Can I criticize this change by insulting people (refer to our Terms of Service)?
- Nope. We have enough work cut out for us without having to deal with unnecessary rudeness.
- 19) Can I repeatedly criticize this chance by spamming my opinions over and over in all rooms and all other places I find?
- No. We do you the courtesy of reading every comment, so please return the favor of only making your point once.
- 20) You should (have) communicated this change better?
- We are trying our best with limited resources. And we are not professional PR people.
- 21) I want a purely Female vs Female planet
- Our resources are thin and we are not sure how difficult or expensive it will be to run two Planets. We are confident that the ongoing change is already an improvement for a large number of members, FvF included.
Andre Jordan (deleted member)
2022-12-21 20:38I think this was a well implemented, smart decision. I can't tell you how many women have told me that my being gay was "too bad" and not take no for an answer, without any sense of why that might be insulting. And while I never respond impolitely to anyone, I can only image what others on the site might be saying. Additionally, I can only image the comments straight men with hot avatars are getting from gay men with bad boundaries, though straight men coming into what was original a gay space have also been overly aggressive/defensive in their comments as well. I also know that women desire safe space to be themselves too. The only down side is there is no safe space for non-binary people, but I understand limited resources makes a third plant (space) out of reach. There is already way to much drama from all folks who can say what they want and hide behind an avatar. Masks give people permission to be mean. I think this thoughtful decision will cut the drama in half. Nicely done and fingers crossed.
Yavuz The Fighter (deleted member)
2022-12-21 21:53So we are finally in the second phase, huh?
Personally, things suddenly felt more different than before, in a good way. Especially for us (the guys who remain in the mars with M/M tags), it is so much functional and nice to feel that everyone in the "lobby" is in there with the same purpose as you: Fighting with other guys and alphas.
The only sad thing for me (as I have stated in the lobby before), is that now I cannot contact with other female friends of mine directly (Unless I create a profile for that specific reason for Venus). But I guess we will find a way to communicate eventually.
Stating that F/F tag and planet can be a thing in the future also sounds pretty bright. While many females were requesting and demanding it (including me pointing that out along with other guys), I doubt that many of us remember that we are still in the modification period. Testing this system out before diving Venus into two parts sounds like a good idea from this angle. Just letting the time do its thing...
And at the very end, I just want to thank you dear The Ref and Crew. Despite there are some critics who are being "non-constructive", you are still working on the site to make it better each and every day which is widely appreciated. Regardless of wheter we support your decisions or critize it in a healthy way, please do not forget it still means a lot for us that you are caring about this place.
Evan Stone (deleted member)
2022-12-22 04:00You can't do this without a third planet for people who liked the old site, this seems like a change made for only one section of the community. The Venus version of this comment is filled with people saying this change is annoying to them and/or badly implemented. More importantly, this change is extraordinarily user unfriendly. It's not remotely clear what will happen with accounts that have both the male/male and the male/female tag, are bi people locked out of both planets?
The Tech
2022-12-22 12:18(In reply to this)
Please read point 9 in the FAQ above.
Evan Stone (deleted member)
2022-12-23 04:02(In reply to this)
That's WORSE. Do you guys not think bi people exist? We need duplicate characters now?
Unbreakable (deleted member)
2022-12-22 13:04All for this change. There was way too many limitations and judgement with the old room. This way, everyone's wants are clear and you can be with the users that share your interests. Bravo! Colonization of Mars has begun.
Boxito (deleted member)
2022-12-22 19:39I think it's a good change overall, I may not understand exactly why but at least I'll know which man will want to fight other male's instead of needing to ask and being turned down
Kurtz (deleted member)
2022-12-23 18:19Hey great! men and women are different.
Reality shows that gender ideology is a the great lie of our time!
Evan Stone (deleted member)
2022-12-26 15:05The change and the Mars comment thread smacks of sexism, transphobia, and bi erasure. At the very least let us keep it so a single character can be on both planets. Isn't having tons of duplicate characters as annoying to the staff as it is to the users?
Remy Cooper (deleted member)
2022-12-30 21:29(In reply to this)
I agree completely with Evan. What is this 1950's notion of gender doing in 2023? Some folks are just going to cause drama because that's what they do and a simple bifurcation of meaningless notions of gender is not going to solve anything. Welcome to the immense diversity that exists in the world. People just need to grow the fuck up and be civil. Instead of having a page pop up to choose Mars vs Venus, you have a simple rule page pop up with lessons in civility.
1) Please read profiles before contacting another member so you can be respectful of every member's identities and interests.
Kurtz (deleted member)
2022-12-31 18:09(In reply to this)
Gender ideology is a lie.
Evan Stone (deleted member)
2022-12-31 19:01(In reply to this)
Always good to have more examples of the real, hurtful motivations for this change and the real reason why Phase 3 is planned to be so aggressive in its segregation.
Kurtz (deleted member)
2022-12-31 21:48(In reply to this)
Hey man, this is sexual market.
Try to make the “difficult” discovery that men and women are essentially different, and that fact is fixed by nature.
Do not victimize anymore.
It is ridiculous
Villain Vic
2022-12-30 03:11One sure fix: Everyone hang out at Venus
Petermännchen77 (deleted member)
2023-01-02 15:52Hallo ich persönlich finde ich schade, dass ,,Bi,, Menschen ob weiblich oder männlich nicht mehr geschrieben können.
Finde die Ausgrenzung der zwei Welten negativ, und beschämend.
Man hatte im alten Format cayberfights, Freunde und Freundinnen auf der großen Welt gefunden wo man gerne gechattet und jetzt muss man auf zwei Welten fliegen um mit einem Freund oder mit einer Freundin zum Spaßraufen zu unter halten oder über private Themen.